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Post by NigeL on Apr 8, 2008 7:10:17 GMT 1
Ok - building on the Jester theme and the Coromandel / Corribee Transats ...
Let's see how many boats - ignore race / large boats, we are talking small stuff ! - we can compile into a list that have completed major crossings / voyages....
I can think of :
Eventide 24 Kenya to UK Centaur Transat Caprice RTW
anymore ... there's loads ...
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Post by petecooper on Apr 8, 2008 8:10:48 GMT 1
Hunter 19 - Transat - David Blagden - Willing Griffin.
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sulis
Coastal Cruiser
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Post by sulis on Apr 8, 2008 8:54:38 GMT 1
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Loofer
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Post by Loofer on Apr 8, 2008 9:12:25 GMT 1
Kingfisher K20+ junk rig - transatlantic (Shanti/Pete Hill from the 2006 Jester)
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Post by malcb on Apr 8, 2008 10:06:32 GMT 1
Virgo Voyager "Centurion" sailed single handed by Ron Lunney, the boats designer, in the 1979 Azores and back.
I've just found out that the same boat did the same trip in 1998 with a different owner.
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Post by Badger Birch on Apr 8, 2008 10:54:22 GMT 1
Loads of Vegas!!!
Last year Webcraft completed a Transatlantic Year with his Vega "Fairwinds"
Vega "Lorna Doone" circumnavigated five years ago.
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Post by NigeL on Apr 8, 2008 12:45:46 GMT 1
As I said - the thread further down about Jester / Coro's prompted this and it's interesting that it tends to be older traditional boats ... later seem to not figure so much - is that due to design or just that people are more conscious of the extremes involved ?
As I mention elsewhere - Sunriders crop up all over ... Canada, Florida, South Africa etc.
Any more ?
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Post by malcb on Apr 8, 2008 16:08:10 GMT 1
I think that it's due to restrictions on length for some of the more organised long trips. Like the RYA Channel cruise and the ARCS, there is a length requirement to take part. Also boats in general have got bigger so that now you are viewed as a risk taker if you do a long trip in anything under 30 foot.
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Post by NigeL on Apr 8, 2008 18:01:45 GMT 1
Mmm the increasing starter boat size !
Modern thinking that only xx ft can do anything except potter about a harbour !
People were surprised with my heavy 25ft Motor-Sailer of having crossed Baltic ... I was amazed ... I never realised I had taken such a dangerous, reckless "voyage" !
To be so foolish as to do it again !!
Anyway I think it's a mindset that is developing with the widening of boat ownership. More and more safety issues are being raised, awareness of potential problems. In previous days - probably the people understood the dangers, but were more prepared to face them - I don't mean equipment wise - I mean mentally. I know for me - long distance on SA makes me consider a lot of things that usually don't come to mind.
Question - with the more common occurrence of Day Skippers, ICC's, Coastal Skippers etc. - maybe I'm wrong but more people do courses and licences than ever before and that I am counting as % of boat ownership. Do the courses teach more caution and actually contributing to less people taking the "plunge" ? Is it that with modern nav gear and equipment it's not the epic voyage previously ? so less appealing to readers ?
I have a sneaking suspicion that the medias informing public that boating is a rich-mans hobby may have created a dis-interest in the street ... Oh there goes another loony with more sense than money ...
Add all these up and we may explain todays situation. ??
Oh well - I'll just have to continue being reckless !
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Post by Ken.P. on Apr 8, 2008 18:31:08 GMT 1
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Post by olivepage on Apr 8, 2008 19:09:31 GMT 1
Alistair Buchan in a Hurley 20 called Mintaka I think.
He wrote a book about it, he's a very entertaining writer.
Or a was a 22?
Can't remember now
I could never understand how you get enough food and water on such a small boat for such a long trip
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Post by jimbuoy on Apr 8, 2008 19:41:12 GMT 1
Question - with the more common occurrence of Day Skippers, ICC's, Coastal Skippers etc. - maybe I'm wrong but more people do courses and licences than ever before and that I am counting as % of boat ownership. Do the courses teach more caution and actually contributing to less people taking the "plunge" ? From my experience of RYA courses, I would say the opposite in that both theory and practical courses are designed so that students can not fail and in fact turn out over confident Day Skippers. As to why all these people are not boat owners and out there? May be they aspire to boats beyond their financial means? Jim
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Post by NigeL on Apr 8, 2008 19:59:27 GMT 1
Olivepages comment about - How do they get all the food etc. on board .... is a valid comment.
I'm a fat bas***d and like my grub too much. Blimey I have enough trouble storing a boat for a few days let alone weeks. And I've got a boat that has more space than a lot of the epic jobs.
I do harbour a wish though - that's to sail round the Baltic .... not just across it. That would take a while.
The Centaur that Transat'd ..... the article I read - it was a yachting mag - more text was spent on the conversion / additions to the boat in form of storm covers for windows etc. than the real bits of how to do it, stores and the actual voyage. Pity really.
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Post by jimbuoy on Apr 8, 2008 20:14:41 GMT 1
I guess that really it's not a case of how do I store enough food for my massive eating habit but how do I adjust my appetite so that I really only eat as much as my body needs. Do you ever have days where you are too busy to eat? I know I do. Then when I finally sit down at home and the fridge calls I catch up by filing up! I reckon that on an epic trip you would adjust and be surprised that you really don't need to eat as much as you are used to. Equally I guess you have to get used to a bland and repetitive diet? Olivepages comment about - How do they get all the food etc. on board .... is a valid comment. I'm a fat bas***d and like my grub too much. Blimey I have enough trouble storing a boat for a few days let alone weeks. And I've got a boat that has more space than a lot of the epic jobs. I do harbour a wish though - that's to sail round the Baltic .... not just across it. That would take a while. The Centaur that Transat'd ..... the article I read - it was a yachting mag - more text was spent on the conversion / additions to the boat in form of storm covers for windows etc. than the real bits of how to do it, stores and the actual voyage. Pity really.
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Post by searush on Apr 8, 2008 22:28:34 GMT 1
Ann Davidson in a 25' wooden "one-off" called Felicity-Ann that looks very like a Vertue precursor. She was the first woman solo trans-at and her first solo voyage. Took her ages because she hove-to to sleep every night! Good book, well worth reading if you find a copy.
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Post by Badger Birch on Apr 8, 2008 23:01:52 GMT 1
I once heard of a Westerly Centaur (Caravan) cross the Solent but had to have a Victualling Tanker alongside for extra food... Now I wonder what teh boat's name was and who the crew were?
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Post by petecooper on Apr 9, 2008 8:37:28 GMT 1
There have been several Transats in boats under 7ft long - isn't the record something like 5ft?
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Post by bajansailor on Apr 12, 2008 4:41:43 GMT 1
Some interesting small (only 10' long!) craft planning on going around the world here at www.aroundinten.com/designers.htmI think the smallest to sail across the Atlantic was Hugo Vihlen's Father's Day - info on his boat and many others at www.microcruising.com/famoussmallboats.htm(Ooops, just realised that Ken has already mentioned this site above) I met a Hurley 22 here about 30 years ago with a singlehanded 65+ year old skipper called Ron Potter - he had just arrived from the Canaries. I wonder where he eventually sailed to? I think he was going around the world.... And I have met a couple of Achilles 24s who sailed across singlehanded no worries - these were Tejinder and Dunkers - although Dunkers' wind vane packed up soon after leaving the Canaries, and he had to do a lot of steering by hand (no autohelm), and I think he hove to to sleep occasionally - he took 32 days which is pretty good going really!
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Post by NigeL on Apr 12, 2008 14:36:16 GMT 1
I admire the small boaters who do it ....
Only a few years back - I was to cross English Channel to Cherbourg for the annual YBW dinner. More than one other boat owner asked me if I was serious about crossing in a 25ft boat !!
The modern idea seems to be if under 35ft - then you should stay in the paddling pool ! It only seems to be the more serious "die-hards" who regard a boat as a boat !
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Post by searush on Apr 12, 2008 15:09:32 GMT 1
Not enough people read sailing books from the '50s & '60s. They are full of people getting a boat & just crossing an Ocean, with varying degrees of success. Try John Caldwell's "Dangerous Voyage" if you get a chance.
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