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Post by Ken.P. on Jun 27, 2007 18:09:04 GMT 1
Would I need an ICC, CEVNI or whatever to travel through it?
Just pondering possible long tours.......
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Post by NigeL on Jun 27, 2007 18:41:16 GMT 1
Would I need an ICC, CEVNI or whatever to travel through it? Just pondering possible long tours....... AFAIK ... both. |
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Post by Barr Avel on Jun 27, 2007 23:10:36 GMT 1
Yes. But it is a simple enough test to take. I did it a couple of years ago before taking a boat down through the Kiel canal. Great trip...
Marc.
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Post by jimbuoy on Jul 5, 2007 9:02:41 GMT 1
PBO has an article on the Kiel Canal ... might be of interest to you
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Post by jenku on Jul 5, 2007 9:20:15 GMT 1
I am quite sure you do not if not the rules have changed in the last two years or so. If that is so I would be glad for a link that proves it.
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Post by NigeL on Jul 5, 2007 9:43:05 GMT 1
I am quite sure you do not if not the rules have changed in the last two years or so. If that is so I would be glad for a link that proves it. Is it one of those ... upset the guys there and they'll ask ? but generally they aren't bothered ? |
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Post by jenku on Jul 5, 2007 9:52:37 GMT 1
I cannot remember the source but I am sure it was a genuine German one who once told me the Kiel canal is NOT part of inland waterways and thus inland rules do not apply. The reason was something about it connecting two seas and big ships going through it. The canal does have an official website, which is crap, but there is a pdf with regulations explicit for pleasure craft and in English and nothing about competence is mentioned there. I am sure if there was such a requirement, the Germans being as they are would write it down, so they could point at it and say: see, here it is! You have to read "the book of instructions (*). The website is here. www.kiel-canal.org/english.htm(*) Preferably said in Gerd Fröbe's voice in the movie "Those magnificient men in their flying machines" ... |
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Post by NigeL on Jul 5, 2007 10:41:15 GMT 1
You could well be right ...
The movie !!
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Great movie ...
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Post by Barr Avel on Jul 5, 2007 12:37:19 GMT 1
I am quite sure you do not if not the rules have changed in the last two years or so. If that is so I would be glad for a link that proves it. Hmm... you appear to be right! Still taking the exam is a useful exercise, and interesting! Marc. |
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Post by Ken.P. on Jul 5, 2007 17:28:32 GMT 1
It looks like the ICC is going to be needed anyway if I venture very far.
CEVNI, probably not for me.
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Post by Ken.P. on Jul 10, 2007 19:04:16 GMT 1
Having looked into it, CEVNI is a very small add-on and I might as well have it if I'm going to get the ICC...... While I'm back on the thread, anyone been on the Gota canal? This Griff Rhys-Jones book is giving me too many ideas!  |
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Post by jenku on Jul 10, 2007 19:58:40 GMT 1
While I'm back on the thread, anyone been on the Gota canal? In Swedish we call it the "divorce dyke". All the locks will kill most marriages. :-) Currently no extra qualifications needed. Max speed 5 knots so not really much happening, but does include Swedens two biggest lakes where weather can be nasty some times. |
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Post by Ken.P. on Jul 10, 2007 20:07:11 GMT 1
You should try the canals we have in the UK! ;D Foxton locks is just a few miles from me, 10 locks one after the other.  www.foxtonlocks.com/The Gota looks like it could be a holiday on it's own. |
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Post by jenku on Jul 10, 2007 20:18:51 GMT 1
It is! I am quite tempted to go through it myself in fact. The landscape is very nice and it passes through quite some historically interesting places.
Unfortunately my wife does not seem keen, she prefers open water and lonely islands.
When I was a student I used to live in a town which the canal passes through. We often went to the locks to look at the boats (and the nice girls operating the locks! I even got myself a girlfriend there once..oh well...).
The problem only is what to do once you are through and your boat is on the wrong side of the country and the vacation is over!!
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Post by jenku on Jul 10, 2007 20:30:45 GMT 1
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Post by Ken.P. on Jul 10, 2007 21:58:18 GMT 1
The problem only is what to do once you are through and your boat is on the wrong side of the country and the vacation is over!! If I start at Goteborg and use the Trollhättan canal, when I come out into the Baltic at Mem I can carry on to Ventspils....... Maybe leave the boat somewhere friendly for the winter.... |
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Post by jenku on Jul 11, 2007 7:38:45 GMT 1
Yes of course you could. But you need the time. At least a week through the canal(*), maybe more if you want to cruise lake Vänern as well. I my case, I would start in Stockholm and have the boat in Gothenburg after 10 days. What then? I haven't the time left to go back the whole way around Sweden and I guess you would not want to go back the same way, having seen the canal by then.
Maybe I could fix road transport home.
* It can be done in less, but then you only transport the boat and miss everything.
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Post by NigeL on Jul 11, 2007 7:55:34 GMT 1
The problem only is what to do once you are through and your boat is on the wrong side of the country and the vacation is over!! If I start at Goteborg and use the Trollhättan canal, when I come out into the Baltic at Mem I can carry on to Ventspils....... Maybe leave the boat somewhere friendly for the winter.... Winter storage is not a problem here ... Bilge Keel ? We drop the mast ... bring her to my place ... lift out alongside my old tub ... If Fin / Long keel - will need to sort lift another place if draft is over 1m Will even put a small frost heater in if you want ! |
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Post by Ken.P. on Jul 11, 2007 8:53:22 GMT 1
It's all just "maybe" at the moment Jenku. Grateful for all the local knowledge. Nigel, my mast is built to drop - no standing rigging and will go up again as a one man job. Bilge keels, I sail in The Wash!  |
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Post by jenku on Jul 11, 2007 9:12:36 GMT 1
Looks like a very nice boat! Would love to have that rig, I have an opening brigde that refuses to open right outside cutting my daysailing area in halft effectively!  |
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