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Post by trevera25 on Apr 28, 2007 14:48:14 GMT 1
Latest purchase for Miss Ellie is a tiller hand ( Guess where from ;D ) can I ask peoples opinions on them , as in , are they used frequently ? are they best fitted on top or underneath the tiller ? basically , have I wasted my money or not ?
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Post by mirelle on Apr 28, 2007 14:57:17 GMT 1
Most boats of a certain age have a means of locking the tiller - mine has tiller lines, others have pegs, some even have a quick release clamp.
I certainly could not singlehand without it.
I don't have an electric autopilot; with a long keeled boat, I've never needed one.
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Post by trevera25 on Apr 28, 2007 15:00:17 GMT 1
Reassuring to know thanks , but with my very limitted experience of boating I think it'll be a while before I dare go singlehanded
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Post by NigeL on Apr 28, 2007 19:15:50 GMT 1
Latest purchase for Miss Ellie is a tiller hand ( Guess where from ;D ) can I ask peoples opinions on them , as in , are they used frequently ? are they best fitted on top or underneath the tiller ? basically , have I wasted my money or not ? Ok - with greatest respect .... IMHO - nowhere near worth the full retail price .... if cheap then OK. Why ? It is a simple affair but doesn't actually keep a straight course for various reasons ..... a) Movement of any weight in boat alters underwater profile and throws boat of balance that rudder angle was set for. b) Adds another line in cockpit that might get in way ... Far better is to cough up the ackers and buy a cheap 2nd-hand tillerpilot ... even the old ones with a "compass" rose to turn on the top can do the job well. FYI - even a tillerpilot throws a googli when you move about the boat ... but it will turn the boat back and "learn" the new balance ... unlike the Tiller hand. I looked at one for my alacrity many years ago ... but went for a bar and pin ..... a beam of wood screwed along the transom under the tiller ... with holes set in a zigzag along it. 2 dowels to fit the holes and you "peg" the tiller at the setting needed. Reason for the zigzag of holes ? Gives more holes closer together than having them in a line !! Simple but did the job.....albeit with same problem that boat balance must stay constant along with wind / waves / current etc. Where to fit ? Because you need to unlock / lock easily - IMHO it has to be on top - where it's seen .... |
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Post by trevera25 on Apr 28, 2007 20:04:12 GMT 1
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Post by Barr Avel on Apr 30, 2007 14:25:00 GMT 1
I was looking at those thinking I could try rigging it to lock my self-tacking foresail for the rare occasions when I want to back the sail (manoeuvering off a pontoon under sail etc...).
for my tiller I have a small plastic cleat under the tiller and a line always ready to lock it off if need be. Failing that I also have the tillerpilot.
Marc.
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Post by trevera25 on Apr 30, 2007 14:44:35 GMT 1
It may well work for that too , the knob that controls the tension is quite easy to adjust so it either holds firm or it allows free movement , and variable all the way through too , if you see what I mean
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Post by oldsalt on May 1, 2007 16:01:01 GMT 1
Dave. You should have asked could have saved you dosh. ;D ;D. ( in place of hehe) I don't use it it's yours. I have always got along with the Tail end of the main sheet across the cockpit coming cleats a turn round the stick and to the other cleat.  Then to fine tune you move your body wight about as Nigel has said. It works well especially in the med on charter boats with no gizmo's at all.  Cheers David. |
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Post by trevera25 on May 1, 2007 16:40:59 GMT 1
bugger  more money wasted ;D never mind , it wasn't a lot  see ,,, I can use them ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by roach1948 on May 1, 2007 22:39:32 GMT 1
Most boats of a certain age have a means of locking the tiller - mine has tiller lines, others have pegs, some even have a quick release clamp. Roach has a pegboard, but I need replacement pegs. I was going to get some bronze rod in Classic Marine when Moray pointed out that I should make wooden ones. "Why I ask?" - thinking I will get some purist answer about aesthetics. His response "In an emergency, when single-handing, you want the peg to break if you kick the tiller!" - Good point I thought.... |
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Post by Ken.P. on May 2, 2007 7:37:39 GMT 1
Time for me to learn something.
What's a pegboard?
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Post by roach1948 on May 2, 2007 12:38:35 GMT 1
Time for me to learn something. What's a pegboard? Basically it is a a bit of wood under the tiller athwartships (pls correct my spelling) with holes in it which you shove pegs into. Tow pegs either side of the tiller holds the tiller straight at a mooring/anchor, or just one is used when under sail as weather helm will be doing its work. I have seen them made in stainless on folkboats - as sort of hinged plate with a ratchet at the top that connects to a tooth on the underside of the tiller. |
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Post by NigeL on May 4, 2007 21:07:37 GMT 1
Time for me to learn something. What's a pegboard? If you had read my post earlier - you would know ..... its exactly what I described ...... beam with holes and pins !! Think of a Crib Board under your tiller ! |
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Post by Ken.P. on May 4, 2007 22:04:20 GMT 1
Thanks Nigel, seems a tidier method than using a line across the cockpit.
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Post by NigeL on May 5, 2007 7:17:47 GMT 1
Thanks Nigel, seems a tidier method than using a line across the cockpit. It's actually out of those Boating Tips booklets PBO used to do .... (are they still doing them ?). They had all sorts of stuff in .... jury rig rudders, MOB ways, storm sails, steering helpers, all sorts of DIY stuff ... Must admit some were a bit "iffy" !! |
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more money wasted ;D never mind , it wasn't a lot 
