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Post by trevera25 on Mar 17, 2007 18:06:13 GMT 1
As I've now got Miss Ellie sitting safely on her trailer , I now need to get her ready for getting wet . She doesn't seem to have any marine growth and I've checked all the nuts and bolts so the question is , can I get away with a couple of coats of paint on her bottom straight over the current paint , which is sound , or do I strip back to wood and start again ?
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Post by malcb on Mar 17, 2007 18:48:20 GMT 1
If the current paint appears to be sound, then a good rub down and a couple of new coats should be OK.
Are you intending to antifoul. If she's going to be kept in the water then you should.
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Post by trevera25 on Mar 17, 2007 19:39:27 GMT 1
Hadn't intended to antifoul because she'll probably be on a drying mooring ( if you can call mud and sand drying ) but is there any reason I should do it ?
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Post by kilter on Mar 17, 2007 20:46:19 GMT 1
You'll still need to antifoul unless your going to scrub her every couple of weeks
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Post by Ken.P. on Mar 17, 2007 21:43:17 GMT 1
This is Tommy's bottom after 2 years untouched without antifoul. All depends on where you'll be mooring Dave, mine is probably 75% freshwater and 20% mud!  |
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Post by trevera25 on Mar 17, 2007 22:48:21 GMT 1
if that's after two years Ken I'm thinking it's easier to scape after three years rather than anti foul every year , and a lot cheaper too
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Post by Badger Birch on Mar 17, 2007 22:58:25 GMT 1
if that's after two years Ken I'm thinking it's easier to scape after three years rather than anti foul every year , and a lot cheaper too Oh no, another Nigel.... Antifoul and do it proper like. The boat will sail faster, be cleaner, easier to handle...... |
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Post by searush on Mar 17, 2007 23:03:57 GMT 1
As they say, it all depends where you are.
Searush has been on a drying mooring in the Conwy estuary for 20 years. By and large I anti-foul every other year in a fairly high fouling area. But she needs a good scraping mid-way thro' the second season. I usually spend an early day of the holiday at Red Wharf bay which dries completely - kids paddle in the pools & I scrape the boat using a garden hoe. Gives me a nice clean bottom for the rest of the holiday. Starting to clog up again by the end of the season tho'.
It will be interesting to see how we fare in the Seoint at Caernarvon, where there may be a bit more fresh in the water, and less time afloat.
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Post by charlie on Mar 18, 2007 0:05:15 GMT 1
if that's after two years Ken I'm thinking it's easier to scape after three years rather than anti foul every year , and a lot cheaper too You probably wont listen, but a bit of time and money spent on her now, will save you a lot of agro, and possible expense further down the road. My advice is this............get the bottom as smooth and as clean as you can now, give her a couple of coats of water proof primer, Blakes is good, and then a couple of coats of anti foul, you needn't spend a fortune on anti foul, especially if you are not in a high fouling area, one of the cheaper brands will do just as well. You have a plywood boat, the water proof primer will help keep her dry. and has already been said, you probably wont have to clean her off if you anti foul except maybe every couple of years or so. You can get XM anti fouling form Marine store Chandlers for about £35/£45 which will be perfectly ok for your boat. Ya can take a Donkey to water..............but I guess ya can't make him drink?  |
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Post by trevera25 on Mar 18, 2007 0:12:03 GMT 1
okay okay stop picking on me , I'll start sanding soon as I can , or would a sand blaster do a better job
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Post by charlie on Mar 18, 2007 1:34:48 GMT 1
okay okay stop picking on me , I'll start sanding soon as I can , or would a sand blaster do a better job A sand blaster will do a wonderful job................... Of ripping the surface of the ply to smitherines! ;D Use a sander, but not a grizzly disc jobbie! Orbital or if really needed a belt sander, but if you use a belt sander, keep the bloody thing moving, or it will soon sand a nice furrow into your boat............Oh Ah!.......and use a dust mask. If there are any gouges or bad dings, fill them with a water proof filler, Plastic Padding do one. If the condition of the whatever is on the bottom, is really bad, you could consider burning it off, back to bare wood, and then sanding it all, but that is a decision, that only you can make. Basically young sir, don't spoil the ship for a ha'peth of anything, better it goes in the water a bit late, than half done. |
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Post by trevera25 on Mar 18, 2007 1:55:51 GMT 1
Point taken Charles , I've got an orbital so any suggestions on grades of paper to use ( sand , obviously )
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Post by charlie on Mar 18, 2007 8:27:04 GMT 1
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Post by NigeL on Mar 18, 2007 9:32:35 GMT 1
if that's after two years Ken I'm thinking it's easier to scape after three years rather than anti foul every year , and a lot cheaper too Oh no, another Nigel.... Antifoul and do it proper like. The boat will sail faster, be cleaner, easier to handle...... The joke of it is .... after all those years in and not A/f'd - my boat was not that much worse than any other boat A/f'd and after a year .... Dave - Antifoul it ... then there's no argument with anyone !! |
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Post by trevera25 on Mar 18, 2007 13:40:28 GMT 1
For some reason I don't much fancy working on her today but soon as the weather clears I'll be following Charlies advice , it's howling a hoolie at the moment
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Post by malcb on Mar 18, 2007 17:09:57 GMT 1
Oh no, another Nigel.... Antifoul and do it proper like. The boat will sail faster, be cleaner, easier to handle...... The joke of it is .... after all those years in and not A/f'd - my boat was not that much worse than any other boat A/f'd and after a year .... But driving through the mud scraped the barnacles off it ;D |
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Post by Badger Birch on Mar 18, 2007 17:45:05 GMT 1
Oh no, another Nigel.... Antifoul and do it proper like. The boat will sail faster, be cleaner, easier to handle...... The joke of it is .... after all those years in and not A/f'd - my boat was not that much worse than any other boat A/f'd and after a year .... Dave - Antifoul it ... then there's no argument with anyone !! Bit like not washing your hair.. It can only get so dirty and they say after 6 weeks it just stays the same, greasy mess. Sooner wash my hair a few times a week!!! |
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Post by jimbuoy on Mar 19, 2007 7:28:13 GMT 1
Flag antifoul.... from Screwfix.
Bluey had two coats of it in oct 2005 and could do with a clean now, but still isn't too bad.....
Cheap and effective.
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